Interesting. I only got up to the bit where the Representative said "I was listening to Rush Limbaugh, and he said..." before turning it off.
But yeah, it sounds like the fed has acquired too much power lately. But I seriously doubt there will be a war over it. You gotta remember, America wasn't founded on capitalism, it was founded on democracy. And some people seem to forget that it was out of control capitalism from the banks that have landed us in this situation to begin with.
This sound like hyper-alarmist right-wing fringe talk. All Obama ever did is offered to help the US during his campaing, he got elected, and the second he starts doing anything, he's criticized from all angles. What he's doing isn't socialism, (look it up if you don't believe me). Its merely more of a mixed economy, which is EXACTLY what kept the US from falling apart during the Great Depression.
If the majority of Americans thinks Obama screwed up big time, well, then he'll be voted out in 2012. I think it's safe to say there will be no civil war or revolution anytime soon.
(03-11-2009 05:39 PM)jedimaster4334 Wrote: [ -> ]The following is a video about what's going on in Texas:
Maybe you should be asking a Texan like me about all this? I can assure you there is no civil war, no revolution. It's all a load of nonsense. As Eagle said, it's all hyper-alarmist right-wing fringe talk. Like anyone in Texas is going to rise up against the government in masses. This sort of thing is the last thing this country needs, and the last thing anyone wants.
This is politics, not war. Everyone knows that if Obama oversteps his bounds, he'll become a one-term prez. That will be your "revolution".
That lawmaker has introduced a bill regarding 10th amendment rights, no one says its all Texan lawmakers are discussing. It's a preventative measure, largely symbolic. And its from a lawmaker in a mid-sized somewhat rural county. When someone from Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin or El Paso backs a major push for secession, call me. I can hold my breath.
Is it just me, or is the only thing Republicans are good at is fear-mongering?
Everywhere I look nowadays it's the few extremists conservatives complaining about nearly everything related to Obama and the economic mess Republicans created. The US will not be undergoing any kind of Revolution anytime soon. Violence is not going solve this one. A record number of voters came out in force in 2008 and democratically elected the president the majority wanted, and it doesn't matter whether you agreed with the majority or not.
For all of those Ron Paul/Rush Limbaugh lovers yelling for wanting America back are you actually going to march into Washington DC and start shooting all the "Socialists" and are you willing to die to support your semi-fascist agenda? No? Didn't think so.
The simple truth is this: The political mindframe of this country gets led by the extremists. Obama is much more interested in social programs and he is doing it because he believes it. I don't have to agree with him (the majority of Americans already have by electing him). The opposition seems to be led by Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and this small-time rural politician with a ultra-conservative chip on his shoulder. Think really hard about this, does Rush Limbaugh represent you? Or does he represent political shock rock?
You want a revolution, try making a social change that doesn't give power to the federal government or eat up taxable resources. Try talking to the owner of your nearest Wal-Mart and see if he's willing to pay his (probably illegal immigrant) workers a livable wage and health insurance. Then they don't have to use social programs.
Hey, if in the unlikely case Texas actually does secede, let them. Good riddance to bad rubbish (sorry Wenty). I doubt most Americans will be rebelling anytime soon because they might end up missing American Idol.
Damn, that was longer than I expected
(03-18-2009 10:23 PM)VulcanStevens Wrote: [ -> ]Is it just me, or is the only thing Republicans are good at is fear-mongering?
You're not alone, why does everyone on the right always assume that the left wants to change America for the worst. This country has always changed, I'm tired of hearing about revolutions. Violence is not the way to bring change. That is why inaugurations are so important, they are the peaceful transitions of power. Obama's policies my not be what we like but they are what we need.
Look back at slavery. Lincoln himself was opposed to slavery but stated repeatedly that he would allow slavery to continue if it preserved the Union.
(03-18-2009 10:23 PM)VulcanStevens Wrote: [ -> ]Hey, if in the unlikely case Texas actually does secede, let them. Good riddance to bad rubbish (sorry Wenty). I doubt most Americans will be rebelling anytime soon because they might end up missing American Idol.
No need to apologize, in fact I agree with what you said.
In the highly unlikely event Texas does leave, I'll be packing my bags and moving to a neighboring state.
I doubt it. Every state has sovereign powers. All that those resolution are is stating the obvious.
(07-28-2009 11:00 AM)SithKing567 Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry to revive this, but I found this link and I was wondering if this could be troublesome:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104524
What does this really mean? Are we in trouble?
It means nothing. Most of the crap conservatives do these days is only because they're pissed at the fact that the American people got tired of their crap and voted them out of office.
I'll bet that if one of these "Sovereignty resolutions" was passed under Bush, they'd be accused of "being Anti-American" and "Helping the terrorists". It's hypocritical.
You know, stuff like this scares me. I was reading the Hannity forums earlier and all I keep hearing there is how Obama should be impeached for violating the constitution, but what parts are he violating?
Piece of advice, avoid the Hannity forums, most of the users there will take their opinions to the extreme and are out of touch with reality. Obama hasn't violated the constitution, at least nothing substantial (all presidents have done this).
Still there will be no revolution or secessions. And if there is, I'll gladly take my gun and defend Obama and the US government against whatever traitors stupid enough to try to start a revolution.
As I pointed out in the Military coup thread, Obama isn't violating the constitution at all. It's just a bunch of whining conservatives who hate the fact they lost an election and would rather act like a kid that didn't get that one toy they wanted for Christmas. No revolution will happen, and if one did, they'd have to defeat the greatest Army in the world. This isn't like 1775, fighting wars has changed since then.
Impeach Obama? I'm glad to see American conservatives have their priorities straight.
Impeach him for what? Getting elected? More importantly, why the hell aren't they going after that War criminal that was your previous president?
(11-24-2009 12:11 PM)LordMal10000 Wrote: [ -> ]Impeach Obama? I'm glad to see American conservatives have their priorities straight. Impeach him for what? Getting elected?
Yeah, more or less.
(11-24-2009 12:11 PM)LordMal10000 Wrote: [ -> ]More importantly, why the hell aren't they going after that War criminal that was your previous president?
Because Bush was a conservative, and therefore allowed to violate the constitution. If Bush was a liberal and did the same stuff he did, you would hear nothing but impeachment calls.