This is something I've always wondered, what does "bring balance to the Force" really mean? Is it what I've always thought it was, involving all the Sith being destroyed? That doesn't seem very balanced to me.
Any thoughts?
I think you're right and that bringing balance to the Force is only obtained by vanquishing ALL of the Sith in the universe.
Think of it this way:
Your body is in balance whenever you're in perfect health. Your body will become unbalanced whenever you get sick (like a cold). Once you get rid of the cold, then your body is in balance again.
Jedi: Healthy Body
Sith: Cold
I could be wrong though...
I think master_of_the_force is correct, because I think Lucas said that Anakin brought the Force into balance (which begs the question if the Force was ever in balance prior to that).
I'm not too sure that the Force is really in balance after Vader's death. The Sith can't be the only evil in the universe...
(10-08-2009 08:22 PM)Quest21 Wrote: [ -> ](which begs the question if the Force was ever in balance prior to that)
Doubt it. The Sith were around four to five thousand years prior to the movies, if you've read the Tales of the Jedi comics.
(10-08-2009 10:48 PM)Vader654 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not too sure that the Force is really in balance after Vader's death. The Sith can't be the only evil in the universe...
Remember that the prophecy says that one will bring balance to the
Force, not destroy all evil.
This is what I've always believed, "balance to the Force" means either the fact that there will always be good and evil, and that it's what we choose to be that defines us. Anakin falls to the dark side, and becomes Darth Vader. When Vader had to choose between his son and his master, he chose his son, and chose good over evil. That's where the balance comes from, we all are capable of good and evil, but our choices define the "balance" in our lives.
I always perceived the "bring balance to the Force" meaning the number of Jedi will even out (as it isn't possible to eliminate the dark side completely). But that's my interpretation.
Has anyone ever considered that "balance" could refer to the use of the Force and not the Force itself? What I mean is (this is hypothetical) the Jedi had missed their mark and was moving away from the Will of the Force. This theory comes from Yoda saying that the Jedi had become much to confident.
to me balancing the force entails getting rid the overly rational, overly passive "good" stuff while likewise eliminating the overly aggressive, overly hateful "bad" stuff. anakin kills the good Jedi, then kills off the overly aggressive bad guy too.
when anakin is done destroying every force user except his son, only luke is left, who employs dark side elements like guiding his rage, while staying on a good path. that, i believe is the point of balance- not to drive a massive unbridgeable gap between the good and bad guys.
(10-10-2009 10:02 AM)onejedi15 Wrote: [ -> ]to me balancing the force entails getting rid the overly rational, overly passive "good" stuff while likewise eliminating the overly aggressive, overly hateful "bad" stuff. anakin kills the good Jedi, then kills off the overly aggressive bad guy too.
when anakin is done destroying every force user except his son, only luke is left, who employs dark side elements like guiding his rage, while staying on a good path. that, i believe is the point of balance- not to drive a massive unbridgeable gap between the good and bad guys.
I think you've hit the mark. Balancing it would entail adopting dark elements and taking a more middle of the road approach. Anakin kills all the good Jedi, then kills the Sith.
(10-09-2009 10:55 PM)jedi123 Wrote: [ -> ]Has anyone ever considered that "balance" could refer to the use of the Force and not the Force itself? What I mean is (this is hypothetical) the Jedi had missed their mark and was moving away from the Will of the Force. This theory comes from Yoda saying that the Jedi had become much to confident.
That sounds likely (along with onejedi15's theory).
The prophecy told them that the Force was out of balance, but from I've seen they refused to believe it until it was too late ("Impossible. The Sith have been extinct for a Millennium", "I do not believe the Sith could have returned without us knowing").
You know, I always thought the Force was put into balance at the end of ROTS, because there are only two Jedi and two Sith left but after reading this, sounds like I was wrong. Sounds like onejedi15 is correct.
Lucas has stated that "bringing balance to the Force" means destroying the Sith. Anakin's destiny was to destroy the Sith. Becoming Darth Vader was a choice he made, not his destiny.
I think Lucas is making the point that we all have potential to accomplish great things, but it is our choices that determine our destiny, good or bad. And our choices can change, as Anakin's did when he saw his son being tortured.